Comics... It's not a dirty word.

[Aaron]

We don't talk about 'em enough on this board and I'm changing that here and now.

100 Bullets makes me soil my pants with joy.

Astonishing X-Men > (Uncanny X-Men + New X-Men)

Y-The Last Man is will be ending soon and with it one of the best books around.

Daredevil is better than Spiderman.

Is the Fantastic Four worth reading lately?

The Thing's thing, does it grow? Can rock grow?

Superman, great character but crap comic.


Discuss.

[Antonio_Bay]

This thread makes me sad. I have nowhere near my home to purchase comics, and it's a past love I greatly miss.

For what its worth, the comics I read on a regular basis were Spawn, Supes, X-Men and Sam & Twitch, although from what I hear, Spawn has really lost a lot of its readers.

Is there an official top 10 comic chart somewhere? Which title is outselling all others?

And if I could add another possible question to discuss – which publisher produces the best quality titles?

[Omaru]

Spike: Asylum, anyone read it yet, i'm waiting to finish watching my box sets before I pick up my copy because it might have references (whiich would technically be spoilers.) to epiosdes I havent seen.

[PftLBritt]

We don't talk about 'em enough on this board and I'm changing that here and now.

I wish that I knew more about this sutff but I'll try to be part of the discussion...

100 Bullets makes me soil my pants with joy.
It is quite good. Azzerallo and Risso should be given some sort of lifetime achievement award for producing a consistantly soild book almost every month. But isn't it wrapping up in the very near future? :(

Astonishing X-Men > (Uncanny X-Men + New X-Men)
True but the real equation should be:

Astonishing X-men > (Uncanny X-Men + New X-Men + Excaliber + Exlies + Xteme X-Men + Misc X-Men one-shots + Unnecessary X-Men mini-series)

Y-The Last Man is will be ending soon and with it one of the best books around.
Couldn't agree with you more. It will be sad when it wraps up but it will be glorious.

Daredevil is better than Spiderman.
In the context of that comparison, you are correct. But right now, anything in the Ultimate universe is better than what's going on with regular old Marvel U.

Is the Fantastic Four worth reading lately?
Not since Byrne left back in the 80s. That was when he was on his meds.

The Thing's thing, does it grow? Can rock grow?
Sure, old Benji's rocks can grow. It's been proven that his rocky exterior is comprised of his bodily waste like sweat, piss and other fecal matter. The only thing that he can't do is get an erection. He is essentially an eunich. Why else did the blind woman leave him for not only Norrin Radd but The Torch too?

Superman, great character but crap comic.
Obviously, you have not been reading All-Star Superman. Then, you would realize that your statement is ridiculous.

[Jason_Brown]

Not since Byrne left back in the 80s. That was when he was on his meds.
A cheap shot at John Byrne? How original!;)

[Aaron]

It is quite good. Azzerallo and Risso should be given some sort of lifetime achievement award for producing a consistantly soild book almost every month. But isn't it wrapping up in the very near future? :(

Unfortunately yes, issue 100. It scares me because I have been dissapointed with so many story ending before, but I just can't see these guys messing it up.


True but the real equation should be:

Astonishing X-men > (Uncanny X-Men + New X-Men + Excaliber + Exlies + Xteme X-Men + Misc X-Men one-shots + Unnecessary X-Men mini-series)

Indeed. Is it wrong that I'm bored of Wolverine now?


Couldn't agree with you more. It will be sad when it wraps up but it will be glorious.

True, I'm trying to console myself with Ex Machina


In the context of that comparison, you are correct. But right now, anything in the Ultimate universe is better than what's going on with regular old Marvel U.

Blaspheme!


Obviously, you have not been reading All-Star Superman. Then, you would realize that your statement is ridiculous.

Hmmm, I shall check it out.


And to answer your question Antonio, Vertigo is kicking EVERYONES ass right now.

[PftLBritt]

A cheap shot at John Byrne? How original!;)
Damn, is my lack of originality showing?

[PftLBritt]

Unfortunately yes, issue 100. It scares me because I have been dissapointed with so many story ending before, but I just can't see these guys messing it up.
I know. The thing that scares me was they collaborated on a Batman arc and it was not as good as 100. I hope that they don't Soprano-out on us readers.

Indeed. Is it wrong that I'm bored of Wolverine now?
Nope, not at all. I think that Loeb might be in a creative rut right now.

True, I'm trying to console myself with Ex Machina
Not a bad alternative. Solid stuff there.

Blaspheme!
Nope, just telling it like it is. The whoel Civil War/Death of Cap thing has left a sour taste on Marvel U. Now, the whole Hulk War thing might change that around but from what I've seen of the issue structure, Marvel seems to be more concerned about making more useless mini's and tie-ins than creating good stories.


Hmmm, I shall check it out. I can't imagine how you missed the perfect combo of Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely. You should have your head examined for that - and for putting that pink wig on. But that's another thread.

And to answer your question Antonio, Vertigo is kicking EVERYONES ass right now.
Yup, yup.

[Aaron]

Nope, just telling it like it is. The whoel Civil War/Death of Cap thing has left a sour taste on Marvel U. Now, the whole Hulk War thing might change that around but from what I've seen of the issue structure, Marvel seems to be more concerned about making more useless mini's and tie-ins than creating good stories.

I'll agree with the tie-in crap that seems to be going on.
They're not satisfied unless they involve EVERY book in each story.
But if you take the straight Disassembled story and House of M without the tie-ins they haven't been too bad.
Although it looks like they'll be canceling out a lot of this shit with the Skrulls and blaming it all on them.

House of M particularly stuck out as the only one I think they got right.
It's made the X books (half)interesting for once and injected some actual feeling back in to the supposed outsiders. We'll see how this "endangered species" arc goes though before I completely pay them a compliment.

To be honest I haven't read enough of Morrison to be that swayed by his name on a book.
Although dipping in to some of his stuff has been on my agenda for a while.
Just not quite sure where to start yet.

Oh an I did read Azzarello's run on Superman, and I wasn't too impressed, so the Batman thing doesn't surprise me.
I think he needs characters of his own to really hit the nail on the head. When he takes over on other peoples books it just seems a little awkward.

[PftLBritt]

I'll agree with the tie-in crap that seems to be going on.
They're not satisfied unless they involve EVERY book in each story.
But if you take the straight Disassembled story and House of M without the tie-ins they haven't been too bad.
Although it looks like they'll be canceling out a lot of this shit with the Skrulls and blaming it all on them.
Shocker, Marvel doing a retcon.. Nothing is ever permament in comics.

House of M particularly stuck out as the only one I think they got right. It's made the X books (half)interesting for once and injected some actual feeling back in to the supposed outsiders. We'll see how this "endangered species" arc goes though before I completely pay them a compliment.
I can see that but since it was in every single X-book, I wrote it off. Not enough money for that crap.

To be honest I haven't read enough of Morrison to be that swayed by his name on a book. Although dipping in to some of his stuff has been on my agenda for a while. Just not quite sure where to start yet.
Start with We3, Earth 2, or any of the first couple of trade with JLA. All very solid reads.

Oh an I did read Azzarello's run on Superman, and I wasn't too impressed, so the Batman thing doesn't surprise me.
I think he needs characters of his own to really hit the nail on the head. When he takes over on other peoples books it just seems a little awkward.
I agree. Plus, those characters have to be seedy and full of flaws as those traits plays to his strengths as a storyteller.

[Jason_Brown]

If you get the first Morrison JLA collection, Aaron, don't read the back cover. It totally gives away the major mystery of the story.

[PftLBritt]

If you get the first Morrison JLA collection, Aaron, don't read the back cover. It totally gives away the major mystery of the story.
http://www.the11thhour.com/archives/122000/comicreviews/images/jla.jpg

Oops, oh yeah, damn DC. It was better as a serial than trade anyway.

[Aaron]

I was thinking about picking up "The Invisibles" to start my Morrison adventure.
Anyone read it?

[Jason_Brown]

I remember hearing good things when it came out. Something along the lines of: "That new book, by the guy that did that pretty good take on Animal Man that you didn't read, is also pretty good." I never did get around to checking it out.

[looking4answers]

...Superman, great character but crap comic.

How so? Not a big comic fan. But enlighten me.

(Whispers: And if I want to converse with Fangirl, I need to speak her language.)

[PftLBritt]

I remember hearing good things when it came out. Something along the lines of: "That new book, by the guy that did that pretty good take on Animal Man that you didn't read, is also pretty good." I never did get around to checking it out.
Same here. Good stuff. Have been meaning to read it but currently, too cheap to buy more trades. Maybe next year.

[PftLBritt]

How so? Not a big comic fan. But enlighten me.

(Whispers: And if I want to converse with Fangirl, I need to speak her language.)
The usual ebb and flow of comic books where good creators go and not-so-good ones replace them. However, in some instances (such as this one), a good creator seems to miss the mark as far as how they write for a cerrtain iconic character(s) and how it resonnates with the title's history/continuity. But like I said, you should check out All-Star Superman to see how the character is written correctly but still has an air of freshness.

[yakkern]

I'm just finishing up The Otherside on Vertigo which is a rather splendid read. Ex Machina is another feast of comicy goodness for you to gorge upon.

[fearevil]

I'm just in the middle of Ghostly tales the thing in the hole.

[Aaron]

Not much out this week that interested me.
Although I did snap up the second chapter of Endangered Species in the X-Men books.
A little annoying to have to buy the whole book and only get about 5 pages of the story line I want to read. But it's nice to be reminded of how wank some of the X titles are at the moment outside of the odd good one.

[PftLBritt]

Not much out this week that interested me.
Although I did snap up the second chapter of Endangered Species in the X-Men books.
A little annoying to have to buy the whole book and only get about 5 pages of the story line I want to read. But it's nice to be reminded of how wank some of the X titles are at the moment outside of the odd good one.
It's posts like these which remind me of the sad state of the comic book industry.

[Aaron]

There might have been more I would have picked up, DMZ, Y The Last Man, The Exterminators etc. but I read most of my books through the trades so it's a waiting game unfortunately.

[BlakefromTexas]

I really like Calvin and Hobbs. It doesn't get enough credit... it's the most ballin shit ever!

[Aaron]

I have their complete works in this massive hardback set.
And yes, it does rule.
I always get the urge to read them around Christmas. They get me in the right vibe for the holidays.

[PftLBritt]

Here's something for ya, DblA:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2/brittschramm/Black_Metal_001_two-up_print.jpg

[Aaron]

Interesting... tell me more.

[PftLBritt]

I'll do you two better. First, here's the cover for the first volume:

http://www.onipress.com/images/books/onibk_287.jpg

And go here (http://www.onipress.com/preview.php?bid=287&pid=139) to read a 26-page preview.

[Aaron]

Nice, reminds me very much of Samurai Jack's style

[Aaron]

So chapter 2 of World War Hulk came out this month.
It's amazing how this is getting half as much of a push as Civil War did and yet I have a feeling this could end much more satisfyingly.
This seems to be a completion of the Civil War arc too (if my theories prove to be right).
It's great to see Hulk finally getting the big story he deserves.

[Aaron]

Reading the second volume of Rising Stars at the moment.
You can see why they wanted to make Heroes afterwards. Good stuff.

[Sic Semper Tyrannus]

I'm barely paying attention to WWH. Although I do read Heroes for Hire and Punisher: War journal. Hulk just doesn't do it for me(although i did enjoy Nightmarica)

I have...well I have no idea how many comics anymore...I have 4 tightly filled long boxes (I really need to buy a 5th) so whatever you can fit in 4 boxes.


I buy these books curently:

Just about anything Spiderman(except for the current "SM: family" book)
Cable and Deadpool
HFH
P:WJ
Irredeemable Ant-Man (RIP)
Anything: Marvel Zombies
Anything: 2099
Anything: 1602
Captain America
Star Wars: Nights of the old Republic AND Legacy
Avengers: The Initiative
Halo: The...whatever the subtitle is(Awakening maybe?)
Onslaught: Reborn
Ultimate X-Men(ever since Ultimate Cable joined the book)
Any Army of Darkness books
Any 30 Days of Night books
Wizard
Toyfare
and probably more that I'm forgetting.

[Aaron]

Marvel whore eh?
I'd advise you to check out the many Vertigo books mentioned within this thread.
And if you're not reading Daredevil you're not reading the best Marvel superhero book on the market (best Marvel superhero team book being Astonishing X-Men)

[Spacemeat]

I am partial to the odd comic (Watchmen, V, Dark Knight and Dark Knight Returns etc. Yesm the obvious ones. They're comics, I refuse to call them graphic novels), but the only comics I've really fallen in love with are the Johnny the Homocidal Maniac series, the Squee series, and the Filler Bunny comics. JTHM is quite self obsessed, but the Filler Bunny comics are a hoot.

[BOP TILL U DROP]

if any of you are into zombies, you should read my fav graphic novel, "the abandoned". i actually picked it up because the girl on the cover looks just like my sister, then i read it and fell in love with it. the writer is ross campbell, and i ended up reading all his stuff. check out http://www.greenoblivion.com/

http://www.greenoblivion.com/TA-cover01.jpg

[Aaron]

Your sister scares me dude :eek:

[BOP TILL U DROP]

Your sister scares me dude :eek:


yeah she scares me too

[Sic Semper Tyrannus]

Marvel whore eh?
I'd advise you to check out the many Vertigo books mentioned within this thread.
And if you're not reading Daredevil you're not reading the best Marvel superhero book on the market (best Marvel superhero team book being Astonishing X-Men)

DD doesn't do it for me, never has. (and I haven't read X-Men much in the last few years, but I do enjoy them. I'm just gonna let them sort out their crossover mayhem beofre I get back into them)

The only reason I buy so many Marvel books is becuase that's the universe I first got into. I'm that crazy guy who once he really is into a universe has to read/see/know everything about it. (I'm the same way with Askewniverse stuff...which is why I'm here...) I started reading 2099 becuase my cousin Jon was reading them...and now I want all of them so I can have the full picture...(and so on)

I've even stayed away from Ultimate Marvel(with the exception being UXM becuase Cable is my fave character and when they introduced him I was kind of obliged to read it) just so I wouldn't have to buy even more.

I have no problem reading other stuff, I just try to make sure that it's self contained(Watchmen, VfV, 30DoN, AoD, etc) so that I'm not depleting my bank account any faster.

So if you have any self contained books/series to recommend I'm all for it. but I try to stay away from anything that is too interconnected to everything else.

[Spacemeat]

Preacher is pretty awesome. I think there's about nine chunky editions, and that's it. More info here (http://www.google.ie/).

[Aaron]

So if you have any self contained books/series to recommend I'm all for it. but I try to stay away from anything that is too interconnected to everything else.
We don't talk about 'em enough on this board and I'm changing that here and now.

100 Bullets makes me soil my pants with joy.

Y-The Last Man is will be ending soon and with it one of the best books around.

On top of those two I'd recommend the Exterminators, Rising Stars and DMZ.
All Vertigo.

[Helldiver]

Still collecting Poison Elves. Sad now that Drew Hayes is dead. I also get any Spawn that catches my eye ( I blame the Inferno Series for this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Marvel_Comics) )

That and The Preacher by Garth Ennis. Great adaptation of the Punisher by him but made into a so-so movie.

[Antonio_Bay]

I started reading 2099...

Maybe talking about a completely different title, but I thought all the Marvel 2099 series end 12, 13 yrs back? I use to collect X-Men/Spiderman 2099 for awhile. Never really got into them.

[Sic Semper Tyrannus]

Maybe talking about a completely different title, but I thought all the Marvel 2099 series end 12, 13 yrs back? I use to collect X-Men/Spiderman 2099 for awhile. Never really got into them.

You'd be correct(except for the five one shots of about 2 years ago), and that makes them a real bitch to find/read every issue.

I first got into comics before I could drive and that meant I was limited to whatever secondhand shops were near where my mom was shopping. So the only books I read were old ones.

Now that I can drive I can read whatever books I want, but if I ever see 2099 stuff I still try to pick it up.

[Antonio_Bay]

One old story line I've always wanted to catch up on was the Spiderman Clone saga. I heard they went over the top with that story, to the point where no-one knew who was real, and who was the clone - it just ended in one big mess. I'll have to buy it one day.

[Sic Semper Tyrannus]

Unfortunately, the clone saga is another series that I was mired in for years.

I love the Ben Reilly Spidy costume varient (the non-scarlet one) Kaine was a nifty character as well.

[Aaron]

One old story line I've always wanted to catch up on was the Spiderman Clone saga. I heard they went over the top with that story, to the point where no-one knew who was real, and who was the clone - it just ended in one big mess. I'll have to buy it one day.
I love it.
It's worth the read, just for the balls of trying to print something like that earned respect from me.
It's a shame the chickened out of the story line and went back to the status quo

[Antonio_Bay]

Really? I thought the entire fan census was 100% against the clone saga.

I'm going to head over to amazon now and get a copy...

[Aaron]

All the old heads (fans since 60s/70s) hated because it tried to re-write history.
I loved it for the exact same reason

[Antonio_Bay]

Not that it tried to rewrite comic history to an extent as the clone saga, but I loved the whole Supes new costume/power thing while it lasted.

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9703/12/superman/new.lrg.jpg

[marksiwel]

Not that it tried to rewrite comic history to an extent as the clone saga, but I loved the whole Supes new costume/power thing while it lasted.

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9703/12/superman/new.lrg.jpg
I am Static Shock Superman zzzzzzzzzzzz
Then I got split in two, and one of me was red.

And I was a human when i wasnt superman

and they had to contain me in a suit like Nuclear Man

It was loads better than what they were printing before that, but when you look back...its kinda crap.

Of course in 10 years I will be saying that same about "Frank Miller's The Goddamn Batman and Robin" series thats going on now.|

http://iamthebatman.ytmnd.com/

[Czaple]

I use to collect X-Men/Spiderman 2099 for awhile. Never really got into them.

Are those titles even around anymore? I remember getting the first five issues or so, and then lost interest.

[Antonio_Bay]

Then I got split in two, and one of me was red.

I had totally forgotten about the whole Superman Red/Blue thing. That was at the end of the Nuclear Man suit arc? (Must spend an evening looking through the back issues.)

Are those titles even around anymore? I remember getting the first five issues or so, and then lost interest.

Not that I know of. I bought the first year of X-Men 2009, and Spiderman 2099 - gave most of them away to my brother.

I never really got into Marvel stuff apart from X-Men. Its was DC, a few Image titles and some of those Dark Horse Robocop/Pred/Aliens/Terminator mini series for me.

[marksiwel]

I had totally forgotten about the whole Superman Red/Blue thing. That was at the end of the Nuclear Man suit arc? (Must spend an evening looking through the back issues.)



Not that I know of. I bought the first year of X-Men 2009, and Spiderman 2099 - gave most of them away to my brother.

I never really got into Marvel stuff apart from X-Men. Its was DC, a few Image titles and some of those Dark Horse Robocop/Pred/Aliens/Terminator mini series for me.
I think I was all of 8 when then that happened

[Sic Semper Tyrannus]

Really? I thought the entire fan census was 100% against the clone saga.

I'm going to head over to amazon now and get a copy...

You can't really "buy a copy", it lasted like 5 years over the pages of many books(monthlies , one-shots and minis.)

there are probably over 10,000 pages of clone saga stuff out there...

[Antonio_Bay]

probably over 10,000 pages of clone saga stuff out there...

Sounds expensive. Couldn't find any volumes, etc on Amazon anywho. I'll give it a miss. ;)

[phit_demon]

Sounds expensive. Couldn't find any volumes, etc on Amazon anywho. I'll give it a miss. ;)
Peter Parker is Spidey, then Ben Reilly is, then he's not.
Norman Osbourne did it.

That should save you a lot of time and money.

[marksiwel]

Peter Parker is Spidey, then Ben Reilly is, then he's not.
Norman Osbourne did it.

That should save you a lot of time and money.

Now to update you on what happened since then
SPOILERS!
Spiderman had to hide his ID so he took up 3 or 4 crappier Costume Covers, Aunt May died and came back (or something) Norman Osborn is BabyDaddy of Gwen Stacy's Twins, Spiderman is the Totem of the Spider Totem Pole (what?) he died, lost his skin (what?) has more Spider Powers, Came out of the Secert ID Hero Closet. Lived with Iron Man, fought with Captain America, Kicked the Kingpin's Ass. And thats all I know

[phit_demon]

Spiderman had to hide his ID so he took up 3 or 4 crappier Costume Covers, Aunt May died and came back (or something) Norman Osborn is BabyDaddy of Gwen Stacy's Twins, Spiderman is the Totem of the Spider Totem Pole (what?) he died, lost his skin (what?) has more Spider Powers, Came out of the Secert ID Hero Closet. Lived with Iron Man, fought with Captain America, Kicked the Kingpin's Ass. And thats all I know
It reads like that scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm9TACrDoG8) from Rules of Attraction.

[Antonio_Bay]

That should save you a lot of time and money.

Indeed it has. Thanks Phit and Mark.

[phit_demon]

Indeed it has. Thanks Phit and Mark.
No problem.
A good friend of mine told me the whole clone story when we were drinking one night. It took him around 4 hours to get through it.
He's a damn good story-teller.

[BlakefromTexas]

I just read "Fallen Son"... it was great. I dont really like marvel comics.. but it was great.

[Aaron]

Just finished reading New Avengers: Revolution TPB

... I'm hooked.
Luke Cage rules!

[Aaron]

Read the last issue of World War Hulk yesterday... LAME

[juju(x-treme)]

We don't talk about 'em enough on this board and I'm changing that here and now.

100 Bullets makes me soil my pants with joy.

Astonishing X-Men > (Uncanny X-Men + New X-Men)

Y-The Last Man is will be ending soon and with it one of the best books around.

Daredevil is better than Spiderman.

Is the Fantastic Four worth reading lately?

The Thing's thing, does it grow? Can rock grow?

Superman, great character but crap comic.


Discuss.

i was with you untill you said you liekd superman......thats the worst comic book character ever.........i mean props on bieng one of the first ...but..cmon they shouldv let him die back then

[Aaron]

i was with you untill you said you liekd superman......thats the worst comic book character ever.........i mean props on bieng one of the first ...but..cmon they shouldv let him die back then
Did you not read the part that said it was a crap comic?

[JK]

Did you not read the part that said it was a crap comic?

Of course he didn't- I'm guessing his attention span is as long as a flea's pecker.

[juju(x-treme)]

Did you not read the part that said it was a crap comic?
i ment wer you said great character

[looking4answers]

The latest issue of Blue Beetle (http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=8336) was written by a friend of FanGirl.

Am I name dropping?

You betcha.

[phit_demon]

FanGirl.
Speaking of which, where is she? Is she feeling better? I miss her. :(

[looking4answers]

She's fine. Been busy. Nothing new.

[looking4answers]

...or so she's says

[ZBarclay]

i ment wer you said great character

This douche could draft a sure fire plan for world peace and it would be totally invalidated by the crap that spews from his keyboard. Seriously...take an extra 15 seconds and type the words the way they were meant to be spelled man. People might take you at least an ounce more seriously. If crap had fingers and typed on a keyboard made of crap, the printer attached to its computer would print out better crap than the tripe you vomit out whilst trying to be so damn "trendy". Ding fries are done. Happy Holidays.

[By-tor]

http://www.minds.nuim.ie/~trekkypj/darktowercomic1.jpg
Blake Jr. got me an early Christmas present. My first "graphic novel". Loved it.!!!!

[ZBarclay]

http://www.minds.nuim.ie/~trekkypj/darktowercomic1.jpg
Blake Jr. got me an early Christmas present. My first "graphic novel". Loved it.!!!!

Proof of true family love.
My mother will undoubtedly get me a clearance Chicago Bears shirt two sizes two small with Disney characters on it.

[juju(x-treme)]

This douche could draft a sure fire plan for world peace and it would be totally invalidated by the crap that spews from his keyboard. Seriously...take an extra 15 seconds and type the words the way they were meant to be spelled man. People might take you at least an ounce more seriously. If crap had fingers and typed on a keyboard made of crap, the printer attached to its computer would print out better crap than the tripe you vomit out whilst trying to be so damn "trendy". Ding fries are done. Happy Holidays.
man chill out its only the internet ........i didnt realize i had to write all proper and shit...........but if your going to be an anal pirate about it ill try harder.

[By-tor]

man chill out its only the internet ........i didnt realize i had to write all proper and shit...........but if your going to be an anal pirate about it ill try harder.See.. that wasn't so hard to do. Was it? ;)

[juju(x-treme)]

See.. that wasn't so hard to do. Was it? ;)
it was so painfull i almost shat myself

[ZBarclay]

man chill out its only the internet ........i didnt realize i had to write all proper and shit...........but if your going to be an anal pirate about it ill try harder.

Proper? How about just adequately? Good job this time, though, hope it didn't give you an aneurysm.

[phit_demon]

hope it didn't give you an aneurysm.
Just trying to read aneurysm will give him one. ;)

[ZBarclay]

Just trying to read aneurysm will give him one. ;)

I would feel terrible if I killed the poor boy during the season of Baby Jesus's birth...well...terrible might not be the right word, but I'd feel something.

[juju(x-treme)]

has anyone read john woo's seven brothers looks like it will be pretty good

[phit_demon]

has anyone read john woo's seven brothers looks like it will be pretty good
That's a long-assed title.

[juju(x-treme)]

That's a long-assed title.
haha you know what i mean

[looking4answers]

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1096/2137a9950nf3.jpg

[Aaron]

HA!
I likes it.

[phit_demon]

Love it, love it, love it! :D

The only enjoyment I ever got from Dawson's Creek was when his dad was on screen. I wished and wished that he would wear his Flash costume just once.
Alas, it nevercame true.

[phit_demon]

haha you know what i mean
Well how about next time you actually type what you mean instead of forcing us to interpret your gobble-dee-gook, huh? Is that too much to ask?

[Czaple]

Hah! Brilliant Photo!

[ZBarclay]

gobble-dee

I dated a girl by that name once...at least that's what we called her...

[juju(x-treme)]

Well how about next time you actually type what you mean instead of forcing us to interpret your gobble-dee-gook, huh? Is that too much to ask?
fucking-A ill try harder than

[ZBarclay]

fucking-A ill try harder than

I think you word you meant to use was "then". Unless you hadn't completed your thought, in which case, you will try harder "than" what?

[phit_demon]

I think you word you meant to use was "then". Unless you hadn't completed your thought, in which case, you will try harder "than" what?
Thanks, you saved me having to say it. :cool:

[Aaron]

Bought the new Exterminators TPB last week.
Enjoying the hell out of it.

Off down to the store in a min on my lunch to check out if there's anything else good in.

Anyone else got anything recently?

[RobinHoodDaffy]

For the last year my favorites have been Peter David's X Factor and Joss on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Those I really enjoy, most of the other stuff I read out of habit.

[Aaron]

For the last year my favorites have been Peter David's X Factor and Joss on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Those I really enjoy, most of the other stuff I read out of habit.
YEAH BOI!
X-Factor was my favourite find of the last 6 months.
Never thought I could love Madrox as much as I now do.
It has been one of the few books that hasn't been brought down by any of Marvel's big events. If anything it's the only one I know of that has benifited and made them relevant.

[Antonio_Bay]

After Xmas (because of Army of Darkness Vs Marvel Zombies) I was given, I went online to Forbidden Planet and ordered A.O.D Vs Re-Animator. It still hasn't arrived and every email back says its hasn't been released yet. Surely they are wrong?

[Aaron]

It's possible.
Sometimes they list something as being released so you can pre-order it. That may have been what happened to you.
You should be able to find it's status on the publisher's website.
Who released it?
Marvel too?

[Antonio_Bay]

Not Marvel. Dynamite-something, I think (?)

What bothered me was on the Forbidden site, they were quite misleading - all the delivery info said was, 'will be delivered within 21 days' written in a way which sounded it would be dispatched immediately. Gits.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

YEAH BOI!
X-Factor was my favourite find of the last 6 months.
Never thought I could love Madrox as much as I now do.
It has been one of the few books that hasn't been brought down by any of Marvel's big events. If anything it's the only one I know of that has benifited and made them relevant.


I knew you were a man of taste. The only bummer has been


(Spoiler if you are a couple of months behind)



Wolfsbane leaving for the stupid new X-Force title. It makes no sense and had to be handled rather abruptly. It is like paper crack though.

[Aaron]

I've only been reading the trades but I read the spoiler anyway because that's how I roll.

So I'm gonna talk about that spoiler now, if anyone minds, look away.

It is suprising she left. Especially since her history with the group. But to be honest she has been quite a peripheral character in this run. Maybe it was just a case that they wanted to give her a bigger spotlight. Best way to do that would be in a new environment... maybe.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Continued Spoilers! Damnation people, look away for Christ's sake!

That does not really work with the story lines that were happening right before she left. I believe it had more to do with the fact they wanted Wolverine and X-23 in a "Wetworks" style team and they thought a werewolf would look scary and sell comics to the kiddies.

I think she started slow, but had a lot to offer the book, not to give away too much for you, but to have a conservative Christian character not only leave to be a killer, but also to walk away from a serious relationship does not make sense.

[Aaron]

Continued Spoilers! Damnation people, look away for Christ's sake!
I think she started slow, but had a lot to offer the book, not to give away too much for you, but to have a conservative Christian character not only leave to be a killer, but also to walk away from a serious relationship does not make sense.
Yeah, true.
As always Marvel have some great writers but some dog-stupid editors.

[Shäne]

After Xmas (because of Army of Darkness Vs Marvel Zombies) I was given, I went online to Forbidden Planet and ordered A.O.D Vs Re-Animator. It still hasn't arrived and every email back says its hasn't been released yet. Surely they are wrong?

After you read a few of the Army of Darkness mini-series they start to repeat themselves.

[Shäne]

Does anybody here read The Boys by Garth Ennis?

[Aaron]

Does anybody here read The Boys by Garth Ennis?
Tell me a bit about it. I'm always looking for something new.
Who releases it?

[Shäne]

Tell me a bit about it. I'm always looking for something new.
Who releases it?

It's about a Special Operations team for the C.I.A, whose job it is to keep the corrupt superheroes in line. It was published by DC but they dropped it after issue #6, now it's released by Dynamite Entertainment.

[Aaron]

Oooo, sounds good. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Might be hard to find on TPB if it was dropped though

[Shäne]

The first 2 volumes are on Amazon. I'm not sure if they've released anymore trades yet.

[Aaron]

Saw the second volume today in Forbidden planet, it looks fun.
Think I'll pick it up.
Thanks :D

[Antonio_Bay]

After you read a few of the Army of Darkness mini-series they start to repeat themselves.

I've given up and canceled my order now. It sucks having no comic stores around anymore.

[Shäne]

It sucks having no comic stores around anymore.

I know what you mean. I have to order everything from Amazon and wait forever because I don't have a credit card.

[Shäne]

I just read the first volume of 100 Bullets. Does it get better?
I'm not saying it was bad, it just didn't really peak my interest.

[Aaron]

The premise is just set up with the first one really.
The conspiracy stuff doesn't kick in for another book or so.
It just may not be your bag though.

[Shäne]

If the conspiracy stuff starts soon then I'll keep reading. It might have been because the conspiracy only just started at the end of the volume and didn't really explain anything yet.

[Aaron]

Yeah, that stuff gets released slowly. It teases you.
Think Lost but without the science fiction and much more fucked up violence.

[Antonio_Bay]

Last time I checked any sales charts was a few years back. I'm sure back then, DC and Marvel had pretty much the same % market share. (With Marvel a few % ahead)

I've just looked them up here (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080616-diamond-salescharts.html) and DC seem to really be in Marvels shadow now. I was always a DC fan. Get those Batman and Supes titles back into the top 20 at least!

[Aaron]

Marvel has been killing them with the writing though.
And I've always hated DCs non-continuity.
Makes it tough to read a story that shanges all the time

[Antonio_Bay]

Last time round Spawn was always in the top 10. Can't see it in the top 100 now...

Greg Capullo. Best artist. Ever!

[Aaron]

Last time round Spawn was always in the top 10. Can't see it in the top 100 now...
Yeah, he's kind of disappeared hasnt he.
Don't ever notice him much in FP

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Todd is going back to writing and doing some of the art stuff on Spawn, so it may pop back up. I had no idea it was still coming out monthly until I heard a radio interview with him.

[ZBarclay]

Todd is going back to writing and doing some of the art stuff on Spawn, so it may pop back up. I had no idea it was still coming out monthly until I heard a radio interview with him.
Oooooooo...shiny.

[Antonio_Bay]

Is a Spawn #1 worth anything?

[Aaron]

Give it a couple of years and I reckon it would be
I have Y: The Last Man's first issue.
I'm hoping to make some money on it someday

[Antonio_Bay]

A few years back I was watching a QVC Comic Collectibles hour. I bought a Batman: Hustle #1 signed by Jim Lee and an Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #1 signed by Brian Michael Bendis. Hopefully I'll get something out of them one day!

[ZBarclay]

Is a Spawn #1 worth anything?
Not much at all.
For awhile I was struggling financially, so I looked in to selling my comics. That was my cornerstone book, thought for sure I could get some $$$ out of it. I think it was worth like $50.

[Antonio_Bay]

Dang. Well, that's about £25 for me. I bought it for £8. At least I'm in profit...

[ZBarclay]

Dang. Well, that's about £25 for me. I bought it for £8. At least I'm in profit...
Heh. Ya. Way to be the eternal optimist. :)
I think I dropped a whole $1.25 when I purchased mine. :D

[RobinHoodDaffy]

So not to plug another podcast in a message board already clogged with them, but do any of you guys listen to Fanboy Radio? I get it off iTunes and in the last year I have grown to love it. It is broadcast out of Texas and is a really good source of what's going on in comics.

[jeremy]

Heh. Ya. Way to be the eternal optimist. :)
I think I dropped a whole $1.25 when I purchased mine. :D

I had to special order my Spawn #1. When it came in, the cover was only attached by one staple.

Mint condition? No... just disappointment. :(

Anyone ever read Shade the Changing Man. It was part of DC's Vertigo line in the early to mid 90s.

That series would make a fun bizarre movie.

[ZBarclay]

So not to plug another podcast in a message board already clogged with them, but do any of you guys listen to Fanboy Radio? I get it off iTunes and in the last year I have grown to love it. It is broadcast out of Texas and is a really good source of what's going on in comics.
Hadn't heard of it...but might have to give it a listen. Also answers the question on whether the name of my new (additional) podcast that is currently in the works is taken...damn it...now I'll have to be creative and think of something different.

[NobodiesPodcast]

I'm a huge comic book fan. I've followed Wolverine and Punisher for years. They are two of my favorites. I love the Justice League, and the whole pantheon of heroes there, specifically the big 7.
My favorite comic though, and favorite character, though, is Hellblazer's John Constantine. The guy fricking rocks. So fantastic.

Here's a fan pic I drew of him.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n3/Nobodies_Nuggets/ConstantineintheUnder.jpg

[Aaron]

Hellblazer's John Constantine. The guy fricking rocks. So fantastic.
Out of interest. What did you think of the film version?

[NobodiesPodcast]

Out of interest. What did you think of the film version?

I actually liked it a lot. I have to make myself watch it as variation story, or removed from the comic a bit. But it was certainly better than a lot of things out there.
I'd love a chance to see it done right, though. Recast, and written with more grit. And more smart ass-iness.

[Aaron]

Just finished Y: The Last Man's last TPB.

I am bummed out.

[Shäne]

Just finished Y: The Last Man's last TPB.

I am bummed out.

Was it bad? Or a you bummed now that it's over? I'm planning on starting that once I finish Preacher.

[Aaron]

It's not a bad ending, but a bit of a melancholy one.
I won't say anymore so as not to give any spoilers.
It does wrap up the reality of the book very well. Just made me a little sad is all.

[Shäne]

I just finished Preacher. :)

[Shäne]

I just read book one of The Dark Knight Returns and it's boring and I have no idea what's going on.

[Aaron]

Batman is a hard character to dip into I find.

[NobodiesPodcast]

I just read book one of The Dark Knight Returns and it's boring and I have no idea what's going on.


I agree with you on this one. Conceptually, it's an awesome story. But I found the writing to be confusing, and the art didn't help at all.

[Shäne]

...and the art didn't help at all.

That's most of the problem right there.

[kdogg80]

Some of my favorite that I have are the amazing spider-man #121 death of Gwen Stacey. The Uncanny x-men #266 and 267 1st and second apperance of Gambit. X-Factor 6 1st apperance of Apocalypse. The unanny X-men 221 Mutant masacre and last but not least the Amazing spider-man 375 1st comic I ever got as a kid, well I was 13. I have a bunch of the preacher books but haven't gotten around to reading them.

[Shäne]

I have a bunch of the preacher books but haven't gotten around to reading them.

Read them, NOW!!


Seriously, it's awesome.

[kdogg80]

Ok but only cuz you have Deadpool as your picture

[Antonio_Bay]

I just read book one of The Dark Knight Returns and it's boring and I have no idea what's going on.

Haven't read it but I thought the sequel was awful and the art... well, was crap.

It is probably the biggest disappointment in my collection.

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Hey all,
First off as George Carlin said there are no dirty words so comics is, as many other stereotyped words, simply a word. And as far as I'm concerned, one of the best in the english language. Did you know that in Italian they are called fumetti. Just a wee bit of info for your next trip to Italy. Say; Uno (insert your weekly comic book titles here) fumetto per favore....Grazie mille.
Okay I have been reading negative comments about the Dark Knight Returns. Now While this turns bile in my stomach I can recognise that people have different tastes than mine. The thing about that book is however that you need to look at it in its historical context and how many modern stories used its semi-maniacal storytelling and artwork as a springboard. But its alright I'm not going to try and convert any of you. Just know I love it, and as far as I am concerned I have good taste. But that is also up for debate.
Moving on, I want to talk a little about Grant Morrison, whom I have noted people have commented on, but many have never read. A great introduction to Grant's vivid imagination without going to far into his askewed view would be 52. It is a great saga and his contribution to the writing can be truely felt if you know his work. Then you could move onto All Star Superman, with this he revitalised a character that I feel has been treated unkindly by recent writers. Both of these stories are a gentle introduction to a man with a brain that could be described with equal accuracy as brilliant or diseased. Both of these aspects are what make much of his work truely thrilling and/or disturbing. After that gentle introduction move onto some of his slightly grittier stuff such as his take on the JLA, and do not bypass Aztek when you do this. It rocks, and should have became a damn franchise. Alas, merde happens.
Your next stop should be Animal Man, where Grant's talents were first introduced to the American market, that was a great spin on an almost forgotten bit player. I love how that comic made me, a true carnivore, consider vegetarianism, albeit only when I was reading it. After which go to The Invisibles in which Grant was allowed to explore his own belief system through a ground breaking piece of work. It has John Lennon as a god in it for Christ's sake (is that how you spell sake, when I look at it now I think of hot rice wine, hmmm hot rice wine).
We3 should be next on your list, this is a fantastic book which can be at one moment truely terrifying and the next as cute as Wall-E. As does all of the man's work, it has a real sense of morality and social conciousness. It's about genetically enhanced animals by the way who are used as weapons, but are still inherently characterised by their genii. Plus Frank Quitely is in my mind a genius, his art conveys so much through as little application of pen to paper as he can manage. Homage to you Mr. Quitely. I think this guy should have a compilation of his own comic art. I would buy that, cut it up, and decorate my entire flat with it. I have a very small flat, can you tell?
Lastly, take a look at The Filth. As I say, lastly. You can't jump straight into this book without getting to grips with the creator's sensibilities, despite the fact that it is in my opinion his best work. This is a book where Grant's mind runs riot, you can get lost in this book for weeks, even if you read it in one night. I have read this so many times, and I am still not sure what really is happening. But in a good way, you know. When you almost don't want to hear the explanation for it, because then it would somehow detract from your own interpretation which is probably bollocks anyhow.
The book is a work of art, Morrison's mind is never more prolifically imaginative and confusing. Chris Weston's pencilling is breathtaking, it shows gritty realism juxtaposed with golden age technicolor. Gary Erskine's inking, Hifi and Matt Hollingsworth's colouring, Clem Robins' lettering, and Segura Inc's covers, make this a menagerie of thick gravy goodness.
As you can tell I am a huge fan of Mr. M's work, but aside from his storytelling what I love about him is his choice of collaborators, and in particular the artists that he works with. I think in this aspect he has been very lucky that those he worked with have been able to visually interpret what is going on in a famously feverish mind.
Okay, for those who stuck with that till the end I thank you. I realise that was a bit of a rant, but comic books are one of my last vices (I am a man who has fallen prey to most vices with an addictive passion, now I have slowed down and found that I still have the same passion for something that is only bad for my wallet Woohoo!). Comics are now literally my favourite subject. I have been an avid reader of this site and its message boards for a long time, and I just got the internet at home, so this has been a release of long repressed thoughts. I know I'm so backward, everyone has internet, but I had no money. I still have no money in fact, but I can no longer limit myself in this matter. So you can expect much shorter comments from me in future.
Love you all, you are all hilarious, and inciteful, and beautiful people.
Smooch to the noutch

[ZBarclay]

Holy shit dude. I made it about three sentences in and realized that it was a long damn post. Your writing style is enjoyable though.

Smooch to the noutch
...well except for that.
Stick around...but maybe Cliff's Notes sometimes? ;)

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Holy shit dude. I made it about three sentences in and realized that it was a long damn post. Your writing style is enjoyable though.

...well except for that.
Stick around...but maybe Cliff's Notes sometimes? ;)

Yeah sorry about that. Sometimes I just go off on one! I think its all the drugs the doctor is making me take for my mental disorders. :D
That was not a quote at the end though, Honest. Stupid newbie error.

[ZBarclay]

Yeah sorry about that. Sometimes I just go off on one! I think its all the drugs the doctor is making me take for my mental disorders. :D
That was not a quote at the end though, Honest. Stupid newbie error.
No worries man, you seem alright. Stick around, take a dip in the pool, grab something from the fridge. Listen to some Misinformation (http://misinformation.podbean.com)...you know...all the things folks do when they drop by. :)

[mitch_the_conquistador]

No worries man, you seem alright. Stick around, take a dip in the pool, grab something from the fridge. Listen to some Misinformation (http://misinformation.podbean.com)...you know...all the things folks do when they drop by. :)
You have a pool here? Sweet! I'll just grab me a beer then in about 20 mins I'll have a piss in it. Cheers!

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Listen to some Misinformation (http://misinformation.podbean.com)
I'm listening now. I don't get it. Is this supposed to be funny? Thank God I have no means of correspondance with anyone involved! ;)

Can you tell I have now been stalking you for the last five minutes?

Good shit Sir! Thanks for the hookup!

[Aaron]

Listen to some Misinformation...you know...all the things folks do when they drop by. :)
Don't lie to the man

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Don't lie to the man
That's all right. I have been lied to my entire life! :cool: Did you know that the tooth fairy is really a pixie? I just found that out yesterday. I wept for about 3.76 hours!

[Shäne]

Lately, I've been reading Fell, by Warren Ellis. It's a pretty cool little detective comic with each issue being it's own self contained story.

[Shäne]

I just read Batman: The Killing Joke. It was excellent!

[mitch_the_conquistador]

I just read Batman: The Killing Joke. It was excellent!
That book was the shiz bro!
So would you recomend Fell, or was it just something to pass the time in the can?

[Shäne]

That book was the shiz bro!
So would you recomend Fell, or was it just something to pass the time in the can?

I highly recommend it. I guess you could read it in the can if you want.....

[Erasmus Cunk]

Lastly, take a look at The Filth. As I say, lastly. You can't jump straight into this book without getting to grips with the creator's sensibilities, despite the fact that it is in my opinion his best work.

Totally agreed. I made the mistake of reading The Filth before any of his other books. I was baffled. To put it mildly. Although I knew I was enjoying it, even if I didn't know why. I kind of see the Invisibles as the training required to be able to understand The Filth. Well, I say understand, but I imagine my interpretation of it is probably rather different to yours.

[devilsrevolver]

World War Hulk, and Planet Hulk, Fell is truly excellent, Y the last Man, Empowered, the Hot Zone, there are so many its hard to name

[Aaron]

World War Hulk, and Planet Hulk
Both had promise and ended disappointingly if you ask me.
Particularly WWH. So anticlimactic

[Erasmus Cunk]

Aaron, have you read Watchmen yet?

[Aaron]

Finished it about 2 hours ago.
It was good. VERY fucking layered, I can see why it's taken so long for an adaptation.
You could lose the pirate comicbook and make me happy and the rape thing walked a very fine line but all in all I enjoyed it.
I thought the ending was a little flat but I don't think you could have ended it any other way without destroying what Moore was going for.

[Erasmus Cunk]

Ah, glad you like it. Personally, it took me a few reads to fully appreciate it. After the first read I was a tad underwhelmed.

I'd recommend reading it again in a month or two's time. See how much you pick up on which you missed first time.

Have you read much other Alan Moore stuff?

[Aaron]

Only little bits.
Have you ever seen him in interviews though?
That man is a loon!

[Erasmus Cunk]

He sure is. Worships a Roman snake-god called Glycon. A snake-god which was shown to be nothing more than a scam, when it was revealed to be the chief priest wearing a sock-puppet. Really.

I'm a huge Alan Moore fan. Greatest living Englishmen if you ask me.

Read From Hell if you don't mind something a bit dense and heavy-going. Or League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen if you want more of a light-hearted thing. Don't be put off by the terrible films, though.

[mitch_the_conquistador]

I highly recommend it.

I'll give it a read then, cheers.

I guess you could read it in the can if you want.....

It is my prefered place to read! :D

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Totally agreed. I made the mistake of reading The Filth before any of his other books. I was baffled. /QUOTE]

No wonder pal, its a mindfuck and a half. I'm surprised you felt like lifting another of his books after that. It's like jumping into a 20 metre deep shark infested pool for your intro to swimming

[QUOTE=Erasmus Cunk]I kind of see the Invisibles as the training required to be able to understand The Filth. Well, I say understand, but I imagine my interpretation of it is probably rather different to yours.

I still have no idea if I understand it. I'm doing it for my thesis, and I want to speak to Grant to ask wtf, but aparently he probably won't speak to me cos he's not on this planet. So I'm going to ask Chris Weston if he understood it fully. If that happens I'll let you know his answer.

[Erasmus Cunk]

Heh, let me know...

Yeah, I gather Grant may have indulged in one or two mind-expanding substances in his time...

[By-tor]

Heh, let me know...

Yeah, I gather Grant may have indulged in one or two mind-expanding substances in his time...What? Like Pez?
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/michel-jacques.rebeix/pez-new-peanuts.jpg

[Antonio_Bay]

That man is a loon!

I like his beard.

http://files.neilgaiman.com/Neiland-Alan-705905.jpg

...And his hat.

[phit_demon]

You could lose the pirate comicbook and make me happy...
It's not going to be in the theatrical release, but I heard a rumour that it will be made as a dvd extra. If that's true then colour me ecstatic!

[Shäne]

Apparently it's getting it's own DVD. (http://www.empireonline.com/News/story.asp?nid=22628)

[phit_demon]

That's even better. That way we'll have something to tide us over after seeing the movie before the dvd release. There's no way I'm buying it until the ultimate edition comes out though.

They were either very decent or very foolish to mention the 3 releases.

[Antonio_Bay]

11 superheroes that look like supervillains (http://www.bamkapow.com/11-superheroes-that-look-like-supervillains-1677-p.html)

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Heh, let me know...

Yeah, I gather Grant may have indulged in one or two mind-expanding substances in his time...

Grant Morrison, mind expanding drugs? Scandalous sir! He should sue you for liable!

[ZBarclay]

My Watchmen, Superman Red Son, and Killing Joke all arrived today. Huzzah!

[phit_demon]

I'm currently reading J. Michael Straczynski's Rising Stars based on Aaron's recommendations. It is indeed teh roxxor.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/rising1.jpg

[mitch_the_conquistador]

My Watchmen, Superman Red Son, and Killing Joke all arrived today. Huzzah!

Three absolute classics there, Enjoy Z. Huzzah!

[jeremy]

I almost bought X-Men 500 at the grocery store last night but at the last minute put it down.

Anyone have any thoughts on Brubakers writing? I made it half way thorugh the rise and fall of Shi'ar and kind of got bored. Also his Deadly Genesis started out great (it actually got me collecting again for about year), but then kind of fizzled.

[Aaron]

Anyone have any thoughts on Brubakers writing?
He can have VERY high moments but some mundane ones too.
I think he had a great run on Cap America, Daredevil and Ironfist but other works haven't interested me.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

I haven't gotten my comics in almost two months. Going to N.Y. made my comic box fill to the point that I need some real cash to go get them. I think if I can get my unemployment back that is what will happen to the first check. I think I might need to get this monkey off my back. Sigh.:(

[Erasmus Cunk]

Dark Kight has given me quite a Bat-Boner so I've decided I need some TPBs. I've already got Dark Knight Returns and Killing Joke, and I intend to get Year One. Can anyone recommend other good TPBs? There seem to be loads of them available, but I don't know which ones are any good.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Death in the Family is good. Hush is good but a little over rated. Mad Love is fantastic. A few elseworlds are really good, Red Rain, Gotham by Gaslight, etc.

[Erasmus Cunk]

Ooh, thanks very much. A few to be getting on with there. I reckon Mad Love and Death in the Family to start off with, then crack on with some others.

[marksiwel]

Long Halloween

It put the detective in detective comics

[Erasmus Cunk]

Err, actually I won't be getting Mad Love on account of it being absurdly expensive. The cheapest I could find it for was about £30, so bugger that. I guess it's out of print at the moment.

I'll be getting Long Halloween though. And probably Hush.

[PftLBritt]

I'm currently reading J. Michael Straczynski's Rising Stars based on Aaron's recommendations. It is indeed teh roxxor.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/rising1.jpg

Rising Stars is okay but from what I remember halfway through the series, the penciller decided to draw two of the main male characters almost exactly the smae thus making some of the story-telling more than confusing.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Rising Stars is okay but from what I remember halfway through the series, the penciller decided to draw two of the main male characters almost exactly the same thus making some of the story-telling more than confusing.


Whoa, Britt, you read comics. Huh, I think I might have heard a rumor about that long, long(box) ago.:)

[ZBarclay]

I have thus far finished Superman Red Son and Killing Joke...both...very, very good.
But...I am 1/3 the way through The Watchmen...and...well...Oh my. This is not just comics, not just a graphic novel. This story is literature.

[Aaron]

But...I am 1/3 the way through The Watchmen...and...well...Oh my. This is not just comics, not just a graphic novel. This story is literature.
It's heavy going isn't it.
It took me longer to read than any other comic I've had. And I've read the long winded X-tinction, X-ecutioner, etc. shite from the early 90s.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

I have thus far finished Superman Red Son and Killing Joke...both...very, very good.
But...I am 1/3 the way through The Watchmen...and...well...Oh my. This is not just comics, not just a graphic novel. This story is literature.

Welcome to 1986, my friend.

[ZBarclay]

Welcome to 1986, my friend.

Well, it's a story written for grown ups. In 1986, I would have been 7 and unable to appreciate it fully. I am very glad that I waited until now to read it. By experiencing the mainstream comics, I "get it" a lot better than I would have had I read it from with the few reference points I would have had even at 14 or 15.

It's heavy going isn't it.
It took me longer to read than any other comic I've had. And I've read the long winded X-tinction, X-ecutioner, etc. shite from the early 90s.
It's not so much that it's heavy going...it's that I can feel the texture of the dialogue, like I'm chewing the story. It's got so much depth. I swear to god that I'm in love.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Now, have you read Maus?

[Threadkiller]

Now, have you read Maus?Yeay, somebody mentioned something I've read. How about Barefoot Gen? From the other side of the world.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Yeay, somebody mentioned something I've read. How about Barefoot Gen? From the other side of the world.

Huh, I don't know Barefoot Gen. I will check it out, thanks!

[Threadkiller]

Huh, I don't know Barefoot Gen. I will check it out, thanks!
Normally I detest Manga. Barefoot Gen was written by a Hiroshima survivor about his experiences as a little boy when the bomb was dropped. It's not, by an means, a "fun" read but I was glad I read it.

[Shäne]

The Watchmen...and...well...Oh my. This is not just comics, not just a graphic novel. This story is literature.

Whenever you finish it watch the trailer for the movie again. It will be even more incredible.

[JK]

Normally I detest Manga. Barefoot Gen was written by a Hiroshima survivor about his experiences as a little boy when the bomb was dropped. It's not, by an means, a "fun" read but I was glad I read it.

I have the screen adaptation on VHS... pretty intense.

[ZBarclay]

Now, have you read Maus?
Nope, just googled it. Seems a little too dreary for my tastes.

Whenever you finish it watch the trailer for the movie again. It will be even more incredible.
I actually just saw the trailer last week and I keep visualizing stuff. I think Snyder has his head screwed on straight. He's going to do this right.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Nope, just googled it. Seems a little too dreary for my tastes.


Dark, yes. Upsetting in parts, yes. I wouldn't call it dreary though. It's one of the best graphic Novels I have ever read. I highly recommend it.

[Shäne]

I finished Everybody's Dead! last night. I hope there's a sequel on the way. The ending certainly makes it look that way.

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Dark, yes. Upsetting in parts, yes. I wouldn't call it dreary though. It's one of the best graphic Novels I have ever read. I highly recommend it.

I concur! It's fandabydosie! You need to be in the space for it before reading it but when you are you'll love it. Also on the same vein read Incognegro and Palestine. Both top notch!

I read 52 again to get back into the mood for Final Crisis excellent stuff, and FC is hotting up nicely.

[neon vomit]

I just watched an interview with Alan Moore and he spoiled the ending to Watchmen for me. I can't believe that just happened.

[Critical_Lemon]

I was never a superhero kind of kid, I ended up getting into comics when I was about 10 with the Simpsons comics. A bit like buying say, a Pokemon Comic, but still pretty funny and enjoyable for a kid that didn't really understand the idea of cashing in on something by producing it again in another medium. I feel like trying to find an old one an give it a flick through.

These days I'm pretty much sticking with newspaper comics and the like. I write for the student magazine (Salient) at Victoria University and we have a couple of guys who do original comic series for us. One of them is a guy who's been around Salient for years and I've read columns, articles, and comics by him for ages and laughed my arse off at them. He also has something to do with the Critical_Lemon name. Anyway, he's called Robbie Neilson and I picked up a printed collection of his 'Man' comic today and fell in love with comics again. I'm kind of annoyed I can't find anything of his on the net, meaning you'd have to get your hands on Salient or email him cause he deserves a bit of recognition. The drawing isn't 'OMFG amazing' but he's a funny bloke.

(Hardly a quick reply, right?)

[Jeremy Beadle]

And I've read the long winded X-tinction, X-ecutioner, etc. shite from the early 90s. Including the long-awaited sequel, X-crement.

ahem

anyway Neon Vomit, having the ending of something spoiled always sucks. Spoilers are just about the lowest form of anything. I hate that sick feelin in your guts when you know you've read or heard too much.

But if you were holding out for the movie version of Watchmen, then you deserved it:p

(jk)

[neon vomit]

I had just started reading the book. I thought it was amazing writing and wanted to know more about Mr. Moore. About 15 seconds into the interview it was spoiled.

[Shäne]

I just read Kill Your Boyfriend by Grant Morrison. It was a brilliant story and a great read. Is Grant Morrison always this good?

[jeremy]

Now, have you read Maus?

Yes.

I lent out both my Maus books a few years back and they never made their way back to me.

I'm very upset about that.

Anyone read any Mr. Natural?
http://www.zubeworld.com/crumbmuseum/nat111.gif

[mitch_the_conquistador]

I just read Kill Your Boyfriend by Grant Morrison. It was a brilliant story and a great read. Is Grant Morrison always this good?

GM is my fave comic book writer dude so I'm always gonny say yes to that q. However, I have not read KYB because its like £30 to buy and no one I know owns it. I'm ridiculously jealous sir and I've just decided I hate you!

[Shäne]

GM is my fave comic book writer dude so I'm always gonny say yes to that q. However, I have not read KYB because its like £30 to buy and no one I know owns it. I'm ridiculously jealous sir and I've just decided I hate you!

I know it's generally frowned upon but you can download it and read it on your computer. That's what I do. I know it's taking money away from the industry but I try to buy back the one's I like.

[manmiles]

'Kill your Boyfriend' is incredibly screwed up...

I say 'incredibly'

I mean... holy crap, what in God's name was he taking here?

My favourite Grant Morrison has to be Seaguy and I'm waiting for Seaguy 2 to come out.

[mitch_the_conquistador]

I know it's generally frowned upon but you can download it and read it on your computer. That's what I do. I know it's taking money away from the industry but I try to buy back the one's I like.

Cool I'll do that. Can you recommend a good site?

[Shäne]

Cool I'll do that. Can you recommend a good site?

Let's see here. First you'll need to go here (http://www.geocities.com/davidayton/CDisplay) and download the program for reading the comics file. You can find most comics on torrent sites like Isohunt but I did a search there and couldn't find it. I did a bit of Googling and found it here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WN1Q5W7W) though. :)

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Let's see here. First you'll need to go here (http://www.geocities.com/davidayton/CDisplay) and download the program for reading the comics file. You can find most comics on torrent sites like Isohunt but I did a search there and couldn't find it. I did a bit of Googling and found it here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WN1Q5W7W) though. :)

Marry me Shaney baby xox

I have a very flexible tongue ;)

[Shäne]

Marry me Shaney baby xox

I have a very flexible tongue ;)

It's gonna be a tough sell to get my parents to sign the consent forms. ;)

[mitch_the_conquistador]

It's gonna be a tough sell to get my parents to sign the consent forms. ;)
It's cool mate I'll do the convincing. Parents love me :D

[ZBarclay]

It's cool mate I'll do the convincing. Parents love me :D
This conversation has taken a dark turn and should cease. I'm not sayin' I'm just sayin'.

[mitch_the_conquistador]

This conversation has taken a dark turn and should cease. I'm not sayin' I'm just sayin'.
Oh Barclay, you're a card!

[ZBarclay]

Oh Barclay, you're a card!
Large open expanses of water, pelicans, and pedophilia frighten me.

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Large open expanses of water, pelicans, and pedophilia frighten me.
If that's the case, I would stay away from Aaran's house if I were you :D

[manmiles]

So... Comics, eh?:D

[RobinHoodDaffy]

So I just finished

http://www.superpouvoir.com/Team/Marv/IRONFIST_V2_TPB_cover.jpg

I must shower SO much love upon it. I liked the first story arc, but this was golden. So much fun.

[Shäne]

Anybody know of any good manga I can check out? There has to be something decent out there. Everything I've found is either really childish or on the verge of being child porn. :rolleyes:

[manmiles]

Well, it depends, what are you looking for?

[Shäne]

Well, it depends, what are you looking for?

Hmm, I don't know. Maybe something actiony. :confused:

[manmiles]

Hmm, I'd have to say 'AKIRA' or 'Nausicaa-Valley of the Wind' then if you want something actiony. Definately Akira.

I also reccommend GTO (Great Teacher Onizuka) a bizarre comedy/drama manga about a 23 year old Motorcycle punk who becomes a High School Teacher.

[Shäne]

None of those really peak my interest. :( I guess I'll find something eventually. Thanks for the suggestions anyway though.

[Shäne]

I just ordered the hardcover edition of Punisher MAX: Vol. 1. I've already read it on my computer but it's going to be cool to actually have it. :)

[ZBarclay]

Just finished Watchmen. It very much needs to be next spring...

[phit_demon]

I picked up some stuff at Dragoncon:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/BatmanKillingJokespecialAlanMooreBr.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/41gllxgm9aL_SS500_.jpg

and then I picked this up when I got home:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/batman_the_long_halloween.jpg

I gots me some comics readin' to do.

[Antonio_Bay]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/BatmanKillingJokespecialAlanMooreBr.jpg


Still haven't seen TDK (hopefully this weekend) But I'd love it if the movie was to end like the last few panels of this book.

[Shäne]

Anybody know if Punisher War Journal is any good?

[neon vomit]

Anybody know if Punisher War Journal is any good?
You can read the first issue at marvel.

[Shäne]

You can read the first issue at marvel.

I believe you have subscribe to read it. I read a bit more about it anyway and it doesn't look very good at all.

[neon vomit]

I believe you have subscribe to read it. I read a bit more about it anyway and it doesn't look very good at all.
The first issue is free but I haven't read it. I'm also not interested in the least.

[Aaron]

So I just finished
IRONFIST
I must shower SO much love upon it. I liked the first story arc, but this was golden. So much fun.
I adore what they're doing with Iron Fist at the moment. The first TPB was a cracker. I'm dying to get my hands on the second one.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

I adore what they're doing with Iron Fist at the moment. The first TPB was a cracker. I'm dying to get my hands on the second one.

The second one is better. I was amazed.

[Shäne]

The first issue is free but I haven't read it. I'm also not interested in the least.

Do you not like the Punisher or are you an Ennis Punisher fan like me?

[neon vomit]

Do you not like the Punisher or are you an Ennis Punisher fan like me?
I'm new to comic books. That is why I'm not interested. Still reading the classics and such.

[Shäne]

Okay, that's cool.

[neon vomit]

Anybody know if Punisher War Journal is any good?
I gave in and read the first issue, meh.

[ZBarclay]

I picked up some stuff at Dragoncon:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/BatmanKillingJokespecialAlanMooreBr.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/41gllxgm9aL_SS500_.jpg

and then I picked this up when I got home:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/batman_the_long_halloween.jpg

I gots me some comics readin' to do.
I felt some of the story telling in Killing Joke was a bit forced. (You'll have to let me know what you think.) Loved the Gunslinger Born and have yet to read Long Halloween. Enjoy!

[phit_demon]

I really enjoyed The Killing Joke, didn't find it forced at all.

I really liked the Red Hood touch, which admittedly I wasn't wise to until I did some research on the story after reading. Despite my love of Ledger's performance, I couldn't hear anyone but Hamill's Joker voice while reading his dialogue.

*SPOILERS*


And Antonio, the last few panels were indeed the shit. The ending felt both lighthearted and chilling. Seeing Batman break his hard facade and laugh along with The Joker was fantastic. I had never seen that side of him before.


I think an addiction is growing in me. Me likey the bat.

[Antonio_Bay]

*SPOILERS*

And Antonio, the last few panels were indeed the shit. The ending felt both lighthearted and chilling. Seeing Batman break his hard facade and laugh along with The Joker was fantastic. I had never seen that side of him before.


I think that's my fav ending to any g.novel.
http://www.dayofthedawn.com/tkj.jpg

[Shäne]

SPOILERS, I suppose.



Did any one else interpret the ending the way I did? With Batman and Joker being the two escapees with how they're both insane. And the flashlight showing how Batman is always trying to offer Joker rehabilitation but he's afraid Batman will quit on him halfway through.

[Antonio_Bay]

I like to think he killed him.

[Shäne]

I like to think he killed him.

Wait.... what?:confused:

[ZBarclay]

SPOILERS, I suppose.








*Hightlight for to read* (I put that, because sometimes people get shanghai'd by spoilers in a quote)how they're both insane. And the flashlight showing how Batman is always trying to offer Joker rehabilitation but he's afraid Batman will quit on him halfway through.
Yes. I agree.

[Antonio_Bay]

Wait.... what?:confused:

Sorry, I was referring to the final panel of the book, with...[highlight]: Batman strangling the Joker. I liked to think that's the killing joke of the title. That Batman knows their battles will never end until one of them is dead.

[Shäne]

Sorry, I was referring to the final panel of the book, with...[highlight]: Batman strangling the Joker. I liked to think that's the killing joke of the title. That Batman knows their battles will never end until one of them is dead.

Okay, yeah I can see what you mean now.

[MattCohen]

I suppose I should start posting in here ;)